#9: Usability. Don’t Be a Moron.


Brian, Judy, and special guest Julie “Usable Learning” Dirksen discuss usability, why you should care about it, how to start making sure your courses meet “table stakes”, and of course, Julie’s brand-new book, Design for How People Learn.

The drinks:

Brian drank St. Arnold Christmas Ale

Judy drank Rogue Dead Guy Ale

Julie drank Woodchuck Dark and Dry Cider

The links:


  1. Dan Thatcher says

    Judy – I would love to see some examples of things you’ve built with Zebra. Do you have any you’d be willing to share?

    • says

      Dan, I’d certainly be willing to share, but honestly, I haven’t played with it in months and anything I did before then is not really completed work. I’m planning to get some use out of my 60-day trial soon, so I’ll post back here when I make something worth sharing.


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